Minnesota Sen.Amy Klobucharsays “it’s always exciting to be involved in a Supreme Court confirmation” — but participating in hearings this week with JudgeKetanji Brown Jacksonhas been its own experience altogether.
“She is opening the doors,” Klobuchar says of Jackson, 51, pointing out that of 115 previous and current justices only five are women and only two — both men — are Black. “That just makes every little girl and boy think everything is possible.”
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“She’s someone that can ground the court,” Klobuchar adds. “She’s the real deal.”
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“One of the things your nomination presents is an opportunity to address a decline in the public’s confidence in our court,” Klobuchar said to Jackson duringher line of questioningat the hearings on Tuesday. “How do you think we can work to maintain the public’s confidence in the court? What do you see your role in that?”
She added that she was “honored” to be nominated “because it means so much to so many people.”
“I am here standing on the shoulders of generations of Americans who never had anything close to this kind of opportunity,” Jackson continued, appearing emotional but composed. “This nomination is significant to a lot of people, and I hope that it will bring confidence, it will help inspire people to understand that our courts are like them, that our judges are like them. Doing the work, being part of our government: I think it’s very important.”
Klobuchar tells PEOPLE she felt “fortunate” to share that exchange with Jackson.
“She’s as tough as nails. You can tell she can handle any question, any mean question, any probing question — she’s been able to handle from my colleagues. But at the same time she has this humanity,” the senator says. “I loved that moment because she was talking about what she carries on her shoulders and that’s the hopes and dreams of people who couldn’t attain what she is about to attain [but] that were as qualified.”
Jackson wasn’t the only one to become emotional during her testimony. Her surgeon husband, Dr. Patrick Jackson, and their daughters, Talia and Leila Jackson, have been in the audience along with Jackson’s parents, Johnny and Ellery Brown, and her brother, Ketajh Brown.
During the hearings, the Browns appeared transfixed. Leila looked at her mom with visible pride; and Dr. Jackson was seen wiping tears away.
Not all of the moments were sentimental, however. Some Republicans on the committee asked pointed questions.
“People can talk about what they want to talk about in these hearings,” Klobuchar says. “You know, it’s free speech.”
With the slimmest majority possible in the Senate, Democrats could confirm Jackson without any Republican support as long as all 50 are present and vote in favor, with Vice PresidentKamala Harrisbreaking the tie — a scenario that is unprecedented in seating a Supreme Court justice.
While Democrats,including the president, are hopeful that some in the GOP will support Jackson’s confirmation in a full Senate vote, this week’s hearings also gave Republicans a chance to air grievances about past confirmation hearings as they pressed Jackson on her judicial and legal record as well as her personal beliefs.
“Everyone can find things they don’t like about the past. I don’t like in the past the fact that on one hand Republicans held back putting a judge in and then they rammed through a judge right before the election,” Klobuchar says, referring to PresidentBarack Obama’s derailed nomineeMerrick Garlandand PresidentDonald Trump’s final pick, JusticeAmy Coney Barrett, respectively.
“I just don’t think this is the moment to re-litigate the past because we have grievances, too,” Klobuchar says, adding that the country is facing profound challenges as it emerges, albeit unevenly,from a pandemicand contends with Russia’songoing invasion of Ukraine.
“That means listening respectfully to each other and not re-litigating everything from the past,” she says, “because believe me we have stuff we’re pretty mad about as well.”
Despite the likelihood of Jackson’s confirmation along (or mostly along) party lines, Klobuchar says “you always want to get as many votes as you can.”
“I know she’s not going to at all back down from trying to answer questions,” she adds of Jackson. “She’s never been resting on her laurels, and we aren’t either.”
When she met with Jackson on March 3 for a one-on-one before the hearings, Klobuchar found the judge “very engaging.”
“We discussed kids,” Klobuchar says. “We talked about what it’s like being a mom and having to balance a high-profile job and that was a really great discussion. We talked about normal things you would talk about, but what was different for me with this process was that just it felt really personal … it was really nice.”
One thing they did not discuss, she says, was the matching red jackets both wore at Tuesday’s hearing.
Says Klobuchar with a laugh: “That was not planned!”
source: people.com
